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#1•22/Mar/2004, 00:10•Editado por l_Speedy_l

Aquí un tipo a escrito un larguiiiiiiiiisimo post sobre los comienzos de los TF. Parece un coñazo pero si te pones a leerlo (y sabes ingles) no puedes parar porque tiene muchísimas curiosidades.

http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=6561

Nombraré algunas:
- El diseño original de Autobot City era más grande y al transformarse se cerraba como una mano. Era dificil de animar y se cambió.
- Unicron iba a ser el doble de grande y tendría un satélite.
- El planeta Junkion que vimos originalmente en la peli era solo un pequeño satélite del enorme y complejo Junkion original.
- Algunos minibots llevaban inscritos en la carrocería la letra M de microman. En el capítulo The Ultimate Doom parte 1, cuando Spike cambia la rueda de Bumblebee se puede ver la letra M.
- Huffer no aparece en el primer capítulo de TF G1 y no se tenía planeado que fuera un minibot. No tuvo figura Decoy porque en ese año aún no se vendía en Japón.
- Bumblejumper (a.k.a Bumper) no fue más que un error. En la línea Microman había demasiados y se decidió vender algunos como TF's.
- Scavenger originalmente se llamaba Scrounge hasta que se cambió el nombre. En un cómic de la Marvel, el compañero de Blaster en Cybertron se llamaba Scrounge. En el capítulo The Secret of Omega Supreme, Scrapper llama a Scavenger con el nombre de Scrounge.
- La razón por la que Shockwave no tubo tanta importancia en la serie como en el cómic es porque en la serie ya había demasiados traidores XD
- La persona que pusó la voz a Jazz en USA se convertiría años más tarde en el cantante de Jazz Scatman y luego se haría famoso con su música dance o progressive o como sea. Le recordais?

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#2•22/Mar/2004, 02:21

Trivias interesantes pero el link no me funciona



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#3•22/Mar/2004, 03:59

la de scatman es falsa, pues el tipo que hacia la voz de jazz (scatman crothers) murio muchos años antes de que sufrieramos con esa extraña cancion techno, solo es un homonimo, ademas de que seguro ustedes saben que bumblejumper tuvo hasta un boxart en brasil, aca el vinculo

http://botchthecrab.com/archive/misc/bumper.jpg

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#4•22/Mar/2004, 15:30
Escrito originalmente por betetta
la de scatman es falsa, pues el tipo que hacia la voz de jazz (scatman crothers) murio muchos años antes de que sufrieramos con esa extraña cancion techno, solo es un homonimo

Vaya, yo creyendo que era Scatman John. Pues el tal Scatman Crothers tambien fue cantante de jazz.
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#5•22/Mar/2004, 16:16
Escrito originalmente por Toxman
Trivias interesantes pero el link no me funciona

Creo que borraron el post y no entiendo porque. Quizá el webmaster tenga algo que ver, odia a los TF's
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#6•22/Mar/2004, 18:00•Editado por ToXmAn

Bueno hace rato cuando el speedy dijo que borraron el post, recuerdo que yo guarde un poco de trivias que he hido recolectando y bueno me puse a buscar el archivo y aqui esta, tambien son bastante buenas, las he estados guardando para la pagina de MISTAKES y TRIVIAS que tengo:

think beachcomber at the pool in tfmovie

Also, there is an odd blooper that is only readily evident in the Malofilm version of the movie or on the DVD. Spike, Bumblebee, Jazz, and Cliffjumper are being carried by the conveyor belt, and just behind Cliffjumper is a robot who is designed similarly to Cliffy, only he's yellow and has a different head. He's definitely an Autobot; he's got a red symbol on his chest. What's more, on the DVD you can see Bumblebee and Cliffjumper on the screen at the same time as this bloke. I'm thinking it's Bumblejumper.

Careful examination of the scene where Prime is gunned down reveals that he's being hit by two different weapons--one that fires purple blasts, and another that shoots orange blasts.19 Purple beams are typical of Decepticon weapons, but orange laser beams are usually consistent with Autobot technology. Kinda makes you wonder about Hot Rod, hmm?


Generation 1 Trivial TF

The Autobot named Jazz was named Jazz on purpose because Scatman Crothers who did his voice was a famous Jazz musician


Cliffjumper's original name was Gutcruncher. It was changed three days before the principal recording for the voice over work began. I think I speak for all when I say THANK GOD!


Ratchet's orginal name was to be First Aid. This was changed but the name First Aid was kept for the Protectobot medic later on.


Windcharger's original name was Recoil. and Blaster's name was to be High Fi.


There is a add for Transformers the movie in the background in episode 'Make Tracks'


Although never referred to by name, the Autobot Headquarters was called the Ark and was located in Mt. St. Hillary in the Cascade Ranges in Northern Oregon.


The Decepticon headquarters was located in the North Pacific ocean near the Aleutian trench. In episode Day of the Machines it makes the terrible mistake of putting it in the Atlantic Ocean instead on Teletran One's monitor.


Thundercracker's original name was to be Sidewinder.


The generic Decepticon jets featured in the MTMTE trilogy and in Divide and Conquer and Ultimate Doom are called SEEKERS in the script. In the U.K. they are called SKY RAIDERS.


The Technobot named Lightspeed was the only Transformer that could not power up on Energon. He was allergic and had to have energon converted into another liquid form for him to intake.


The Technobot named Afterburner had his cycle mode patterned after the cycles from TRON.


Scattershot was the only TF that had a screw up on his instruction sheets and included a correction sheet.


Unlike most Transformers whose designs started with their vehicle modes, the Autobot and Decepticon clones began with their robots modes first.


The Transformer decoys were released in the U.S. in 1986 and were small red and blue rubber decoys who came packaged with carded figures like the minibots, Arielbots, Stunticons, etc. There were 52 of them altogether and they were original designed for the Japanese market so this is why Megatron had a sword and not a fusion cannon. Also Gears never was made as a decoy since his figure for some odd reason never was released in Japan. Gears was the only Autobot who never was released in Japan.


Every Transformer makes some type of movement when he or she speaks. But Bombshell is the ONLY TF who does nothing, no movement, nothing lighting up, etc.


Trailbreaker is referred to as Trailblazer by Optimus Prime in episode A Prime Problem due to a error in the script.


The Decepticon ship created by Unicron in the movie was called the Steelhaven although never mentioned once. In the U.S. comic the Autobots had a ship later on called the Steelhaven as well.


The Quintesson ships were called Trident Warships.


In Transformers The Movie the ship that Prime came on to Autobot City was called the Vindicator. The ship's that the Autobot's escaped on were the Avenger and Dolomite. The ship Ironhide and the Autobots were killed on in the movie was the Lancet.


The term Autobot means Autonomous robot and originated when the Autobots became sentient beyond the Quintessons control


G.I.Joe appearences in a TF cartoon:

Cobra Commander in Only Human

Flint appears rather old in the Killing Jar. Bill Ratner still does his voice

Flint's daughter Merrisa Fairborne appeared in 5 Faces of Darkness, the Killing Jar, Money is Everything, Forever is a long time coming,and Burden hardest to Bear. Flint on his file card has the last name of Fairborne and Lady Jaye is the mother.

"Yo Joe!" Wreck gar shouted in Dweller in the Depths. Not exactly a appearence but rather cool.


The show 'Space Age Jack' is Big Broadcast of 2006 is a play of word of G.I.Joe complete with their own battle cry of "Yo Jack!"


Carly's last name was Meeks.


When C3P-O screamed "Don't!" in Empire Strikes Back, it was used when ran through a synthesizer for the effects for Galvatron's cannon in season 3.


Daniel was originally going to have a younger sister named Sarah who sometimes followed him along on adventures in the third season. This idea was quickly discarded.


A blue Huffer was accidentally carded as Pipes for a few months before the mistake was caught and corrected. If you have one, they are worth a lot.


There are two different versions of Brawn out there. One has a die cut face and the other does not concerning his mouth piece.


Windcharger can be found in two different shades of red that he came in. One is light and one dark red.


Originally the personalities and functions of Hound and Mirage were exchanged. They switched them as the name 'Hound' and function of a tracker fits more with the Mitsubishi J59 jeep that he transforms into than the F-1 Liger JS-11 sports car that Mirage transforms into.


Jazz was originally going to be in more season three episodes with speaking parts(7 of them to be exact) but sadly Scatman Crothers who did his voice died on Nov 22, 1986 in Van Mays California from Lung Cancer so this could not be accomplished.


Originally Ted Schwartz was cast as the voice for Rodimus Prime/Hotrod for the series. But he was replaced with Dick Gautier who did the voice for Serpentor from G.I.Joe. But some of Ted's lines can still be heard in Five Faces of Darkness pt one as they were left in after principal recording.


There are two Ratchet toy variants out there. One has a red cross on the sides of it and top. The other does not.


Sideswipe had a rocket pack in the series that he only used once in More than meets the Eye pt 3. But technically he didn't use it but gave it to Prime. The funny thing was is that when it was shown on his back, the rocket pack was upside down.


Wheeljack, Powerglide, Jetfire, Omega Supreme, and Blaster are the only Autobots with articulated necks. This does not include the Action Masters.


Wheeljack is shown only 10 times ever transforming into his Lancia Stratos car mode in the cartoon.


Scavenger's original name was Scrounge. In fact in his first appearance in Heavy Metal Wars from season one, Scrapper calls him this name. His name was changed to Scavenger for season two. Comic book writer Bob Budiansky saw this name on the character model sheets for Scavenger and used it for a Autobot in the comic book who was Blaster's partner in issue 18 and 19.


There are two models for Optimus Prime's laser rifle that he came with. He has thick or thin barrel depending which one you bought.


Prime's "Roller" car was either grey, blue, or purple depending on which one you bought.


Optimus transforms into a Freightliner COE dual-axle semi truck. The only times he used his Trailer sections were in episodes:
1.) More than meets the eye pt 3
2.) Fire in the Sky
3.) Attack of the Autobots
4.) Search for Alpha Trion (he used it to transport Aleta One)
5.) Roll for it (he used it to transport several Autobots)
6.) Atlantis Arise ( he used it to transport the Dinobots)
7.) Childs Play (he used it to transport energon cubes)


The Autobot named Bumblejumper was a cross between Bumblebee and Cliffjumper. He was carded on either one and given the name Bumblejumper or Bumper by fans. He transforms into a 1500 XG Mazda Familia. Bumblebee transforms into a Volkswagon Beetle, Cliffjumper into a Porsche 924 Turbo, and Hubcap(who was available in 1986) into a Modified Porsche 924 Turbo. All of these Autobots look similar and fans mistake them a lot.


Frenzy was packaged initially with Laserbeak and he had die cast metal feet and joints. Later in the 1986 lineup he was with Ratbat with black plastic feet and joints.


Frenzy had "pile driver arms" like Rumble in City of Steel and in the movie even though he should not have.


Two versions of Starscream were released in 1984 and 1986. A silver-grey version was released in 1986 and the regular one was in '84.


Soundwave's weapons can be stored in the battery compartment in his back.


The Japanese version of Megatron comes with a huge sword which is why Megatron's decoy has a sword and not the fusion cannon.


The only times in the cartoon Megatron is referred to as having a "fusion cannon" are in episodes S.O.S. Dinobots and Prime mentions it in The Insecticon Syndrome.


Cosmos UFO mode was based on the photograph taken of a real UFO by George Adamski.


The Autobot Skids is a rare item to find as he was only packaged in small assortments due to the fact that his car mode was less exciting. He is worth more than most of the other Autobots of his era and only featured in two episodes.


Smokescreen's car number matches his Japanese TF catalog number which is C-38.


Track's car mode was specifically designed in anticipation of American market preferences.


All Dinobots have cockpits in them except for Swoop as they originally came with little drivers in Japan.


The Autobot Jumpstarters were sold in Argentina under the titles of Saltman X(topsin) and Saltman Z(Twin Twist).


Perceptor's magnifying glass on his micro scope actually works and magnifies up to 14 times on his toy.


Perceptor is shown with wheels so he can travel in Micro scope mode in episode Childs Play which is accurate to the toy.


Two types of Blaster toys exist. One in 1985 that could not open his chest. The other was in 1986 and had a eject button for his chest to open for his tapes.


Although never stated, Overdrive is the Omnibot leader.


The Deluxe Insecticon named Chop Shop has his name because of his insect's pincher mode and his character's personality as a thief.


All four Deluxe Insecticons(Venom, Chop Shop, Barrage, and Ransack)were Convertors first and made by Takatoku/Bandai.


Scrapper is the leader of the Constructicons in the cartoon. In the comic book Scavenger was. As the toy Hook was suppose to be.


Dirge is the only Decepticon jet without any tailfins.


Due to inadequate wing surface to accommodate the large Decepticon symbols on Thrust, his symbols were always badly offset.


Swerve's name in Japan was Wave for some odd reason.


Outback's name in Japan was backblast.


The package art for Rewind and Eject indicate that their weapons can be stored on their backs like Rumble and Frenzy's can but the mold for the hole is too small to do this.


Sky Lynx is the only G1 TF in his size class with no accessories at all.


Metroplex can have the smaller gestalts plug into his shoulder joints to power up and all the Gestalt leaders can plug into him in city mode from Scramble City.


The Stunticon Breakdown for G2 was never mass produced and only 250 were made for the Botcon exclusive.


Bruticus is the most easily findable Gestalt on the market with remakes of him for G1, G2, and RID.


The Predacon named Divebomb is the most easily TF that has sticker tear due to the flexible wings and joints.


Predaking has a vastly different aesthetic design for his gestalt mode due to the fact that he was designed by someone who had mainly done work for Bandai.


All the Technobot weapons can plug into Computron for extra added firepower or just from keep getting lost.


Originally both Jazz and Prowl were going to be drawn with their shoulder cannons in the cartoon that came with their toys but Hasbro wanted them all to look different. So Bluestreak had his shoulder cannons, Prowl had none, and Jazz had no shoulder cannon and no extended car doors.


The original name for the Protectobot team was to be Enforcobots but quickly changed.


The episode Dweller in the Depths was based off of Night of the Living Dead


The Autobots had all the older guys like Ironhide, Kup, and Alpha Trion but the Decepticons never had any.


The Autobots also had all the females and the Decepticons never had any but there was a female Decepticon jet fighter planned but never released for G1.


Brawn had the name of Breaker due to his claws his toy had for arms but it was changed.


The only other time Blurr is drawn with motion lines like he had in the movie was in episode Chaos for one scene.


The only time ever that Ultra Magnus acted like a car carrier and carried cars was in his commercial and the eye catch for season three.


The only times Rodimus Prime was ever shown with his tractor trailer as a separate unit from him was in Grimlock's New Brain and in Nightmare Planet .


If season four had continued , Hasbro's other newly launched toy line called Battle Beasts were going to have appearances in the Transformer cartoon in a two episodes.


The Transformer's weaker rival called the Go Bots sued the Mighty Orbots and had their cartoon taken off the air.


Concept Art exists for a Ark playset complete with Teletran One and a Skyspy but never got beyond the planning stages.


Shockwave and the Autobot Whirl are the only two TF's that have one eye for a face.


Number of times Optimus Prime ordered the Autobots to "Transform and Roll out" : 48 (not including Masquerade when he in disguise as MotorMaster said "Stunticons transform and roll out&quot



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#7•22/Mar/2004, 20:21

Una pena que el Arca no pasara de la mesa de diseño, hubiera estado bien vender las naves TF.

No entiendo esto:
When C3P-O screamed "Don't!" in Empire Strikes Back, it was used when ran through a synthesizer for the effects for Galvatron's cannon in season 3.

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#8•22/Mar/2004, 20:59

Ya, es que es raro, raro, raro...

Más o menos:

El grito de C-3PO de "¡No!" en el Imperio Contraataca fue usado a través de un sintetizador para los efectos del cañón de Galvatron en la tercera temporada.

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#9•23/Mar/2004, 01:14
Escrito originalmente por Tanafor
Ya, es que es raro, raro, raro...

Más o menos:

El grito de C-3PO de "¡No!" en el Imperio Contraataca fue usado a través de un sintetizador para los efectos del cañón de Galvatron en la tercera temporada.


eso fue lo mismo que yo entendi, jeje que rebuscado.


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#10•23/Mar/2004, 02:51

Que cosillas tan interesantes y otras de verdad harto curiosas...y Toxman medio ni ke discursito ke te mandaste...jejejej

MALDITO TRABAJO TUYO.....
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#11•23/Mar/2004, 05:03

Tan muy buenas.

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#12•23/Mar/2004, 23:55

Dedicado a Hot Rod:
En la película, cuando Megatron dispara el tiro de gracia a Prime impactan en el 2 disparos. Uno es morado como el color de los disparos de las armas deceps, sin embargo, el segundo es anaranjado como el de las armas Autobots. Hot Rod, admitelo, tú mataste a Prime

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#13•24/Mar/2004, 01:02
Escrito originalmente por _Speedy_
Dedicado a Hot Rod:
En la película, cuando Megatron dispara el tiro de gracia a Prime impactan en el 2 disparos. Uno es morado como el color de los disparos de las armas deceps, sin embargo, el segundo es anaranjado como el de las armas Autobots. Hot Rod, admitelo, tú mataste a Prime


es un maldito traidor, optimus todavia no terminaba de entregar la matriz cuando hot rod ya queria agarrarsela, "no, se cayo, yo solo queria recogerla"
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#14•24/Mar/2004, 17:13

No puedo permitir esta insubordinacion AUTOBOTS DESTRULLAN A HOT ROD
heyu que buena info sabia que flint y cobra salian en transformers season 3 pero no los ubicaba y prime utiliza su vagon en dinobot island para cargar a varios mamuts que habian entrado por el tunel del tiempo

La libertad es el derecho de todo ser con conciencia.
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#15•24/Mar/2004, 17:23
Escrito originalmente por _Speedy_
Hot Rod, admitelo, tú mataste a Prime


Bien, se aclararon las dudas.... Hot Rod, en nombre de los Decepticons, gracias por ayudar a Megatron a eliminar a Optimus
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#16•24/Mar/2004, 17:52

No le agradezcas nada Lady Ter, si bastante que nos cobro por la gracia, ademas el cheque se lo empalmo Kup ....

<---Renovado!! =)
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